Minutes 21st October 2015

Minutes of the Meeting of the Council

Date: Wednesday 21st October 2015 Time: 7.30pm
Place: Committee Room, Bramley Village Hall
Present: Cllr Durrant (Chair) Cllr Bell
Cllr Murphy Cllr Clarke
Cllr Capel Cllr Lane
In Attendance: Maxta Thomas (Clerk) 3 members of the public
  Cllr Tomblin (Borough) Cllr Robinson (Borough)
Apologies: Cllr Ansell Cllr Marshall
  Cllr Keith Chapman (County) PCSO Nathaniel Johnson



1 Apologies for Absence

As listed above.

2 Declarations of Interest


3 Minutes of the Last Parish Council Meeting


Cllr Capel proposed and Cllr Durrant seconded that the minutes of the meeting held on 16thSeptember 2015 were a true and accurate record.  Unanimously agreed.   The minutes were signed by the Chairman.




Matters arising




4 Open Forum


The Chairman invited questions and comments from those present.

Craig Henderson-Bowman asked when roads at the German Road development will be adopted.


5 Planning & Development


New Applications

T/00319/15/TPO – The Royal British Legion The Street Bramley

T1) Goat Willow: fell at 1m height. T2) Hawthorn: crown reduce to no smaller than 2m in height with a canopy spread of no less than 1.5m. T3 Ash: fell.

Councillors noted that the application is incomplete as there is no supporting evidence, inconsistent and not submitted by the landowner.  Therefore it was unanimously agreed to object on these grounds.

15/03423/FUL – Land Adjacent The Street Bramley

Erection of two no. 4 bedroom dwellings with detached garages and associated landscaping and access works

It was noted that the access is very close to the exit from Cufaude Lane.  It was also noted that there were inaccuracies in the supporting documents.  The plans appear to not leave any access into field behind the development, and ownership of this field is unclear.  The application creates similar problems to the larger development application on the other side of Cufaude Lane.  It was agreed that the principle objections were on access and deterioration of the rural feel of the area, which is in a Conservation Area.  Clerk to respond accordingly.

T/00400/15/TCA – 4 Churchlands, Bramley

Notice of intent to T1/T2  willows – repollard due to decay in base finished height will be 3.5m.  T3 Dawn redwood – lift off of garage to give a 2m clearance

A lack of supporting documentation was noted, as was number of trees that have already been felled in Churchlands in recent years.  It was agreed that the Clerk should ask the Tree Officers to take a cumulative look at trees felled in the area.

T/00397/15/TPO – 6 North Row Bramley

T4 Oak – rear of 6/7 North Row. reduce leader with stem damage/decay by 2m and reduce lateral branches above damage by 1m and remove deadwood. T5 Oak – rear of 5/6 North Row reduce two main scaffold limb structures on south side to reduce loading by 5m T7 Oak – reduce to 5m monouth due to major decay in stem at 2m

Cllr Durrant noted that no expert opinion was included in the documentation.  Clerk to reply that Bramley PC wish to see full evidence before commenting.


































Approvals/Refusals – recent approvals and refusals were noted (appendix A)


Cufaude Lane traveller site – the owner appeared before Basingstoke Magistrates Court on the 17 September 2015  in respect of non-compliance with the enforcement notice.  He pleaded guilty and was ordered to pay approximately £3000 in fines.  The owner has been required to comply with the enforcement notice within 28 days of 23rd September 2015.

Cllr Murphy noted that the owner has now complied with the enforcement notice, and appears to be working on the land.  Situation to be monitored.



Strawberry Fields & The Street Developments – Objections to both applications have been lodged with BDBC, and the PC has been in close contact with both planning officers involved.



Local Development Plan update



Inspectors Review – Cllr Durrant has attended 3 days of the inspection process so far, raising concerns on Bramley’s behalf, and summarising the current situation.  This is with regards to Bramley specifically, and also including issues concerning the Manydown development.  Cllr Durrant noted that the sessions were well attended by developers.  Cllr Robinson noted that the Manydown development will take time to come to fruition, and he also noted opposition from residents in the surrounding area.



Omission Sites Review – meeting will be on 22nd October.  Cllr Durrant is planning to attend if no other councillor is available.  Omission sites are those that are not included in plan that developers feel should be.

Phase 2 of Strawberry Fields is in the plan as an omission site, despite phase 1 not having been agreed yet.


6 Clerk’s Report & Correspondence

Actions from previous meeting:

  • Definition of a District Centre – according to the Planning Portal, document PPS5 states that a District Centre is ‘Groups of shops, separate from the town centre, usually containing at least one food supermarket or superstore and non-retail service uses such as banks, building societies and restaurants.’  This document is a useful Glossary of Terms that are in common usage.  Clerk to email the link to all councillors
  • Clift Meadow Trust re supply refreshments on the day of the 2016 Bramley Road Race.  Still to be actioned.
  • Development responses have been sent to Edward Rehill at BDBC.
  • Current police details still to be placed on noticeboards


  • A resident of North Row has sent an email to Ranil Jayawardena MP and copied the Clerk.  She complained about ongoing issues of fly tipping in the brook running past North Row and up past Strawberry Fields, the effect this has on local wildlife, and the lack of action on this from various relevant official bodies.  Cllr Durrant and the Clerk have met with the complainant, and taken a good look at the issues identified.  As a result, the Clerk has obtained copies of ongoing correspondence on the issue, and will liaise with the Litter Warden and BDBC in the first instance in an attempt to achieve a lasting solution.  It has also been suggested that an education event could be held at the School for the children, with a talk being given by the appropriate authority – possibly the Environment Agency.  This will be investigated.
  • The Clerk has attended the HALC AGM.  The focus for this year was on devolution for the Hampshire area.  The aim appears to be to devolve more powers down to the lower tiers of local government, which may present some interesting opportunities for Parish Councils.  Clerk to forward copies of presentations and supporting paperwork to all councillors.  Cllr Tomblin noted that the BDBC leader is acting as the representative for the North Hampshire area.  He also noted that the process will take a long time – there is much consultation to be carried out, and negotiating with the Government.
  • Councillor training – the first training session has been held, and was very successful, with attendees from Sherfield-on-Loddon and Silchester, as well as Bramley.  The second session is on 22nd October.
  • A concerned resident has highlighted concerns about a potentially offensive Halloween display in Beckett Gardens.  This has been forwarded to BDBC for action.
  • The external audit documents have been received from BDO.  After a request for a great deal of extra paperwork, BDO have passed the audit just two very minor advisories; one noting that the annual return did not add up by £1.00, and the other noting that a minute reference was missing on the audit form.  The Clerk noted her satisfaction with the successful audit after a very busy and difficult financial year.




























7 Reports


Reports from Parish Council representatives


Allotments & Burial Ground Update – see appendix B.

Allotments – It was proposed by Cllr Durrant and seconded by Cllr Lane to set the 2016 Allotment rates at the same level as 2015.  Unanimously agreed.

Burial Ground:

  • Rates for the Burial Ground need to be reviewed.  Clerk and Cllr Ansell to action.
  • Burial Ground H&S actions – still to be carried out.
  • Burial Ground gate – work has been completed.





Cllr Ansell /Clerk




Neighbourhood Development Plan – Cllr Bell gave a verbal update.

  • Consultation Progress report – it is taking a lot of time to go through the responses to the consultation.  Cllr Bell has responded to all participants to the consultation.  The NDP will need significant editing as a result.  He noted the difficulty of work with so few people working on it.  An extraordinary PC meeting will be required to approve the amended plan.  Cllr Clarke asked if BDBC were committed to supporting the Bramley NDP – Cllr Bell confirmed that they were, and have been very supportive.  He noted that developers are stating that as the emerging LDP and NDP are not approved, they cannot be taken into account when considering planning applications – this will cause issues with appeals if such applications are rejected.  Concerns were expressed by councillors on timescales, given that BDBC have to consider their own LDP, and NDPs from various parishes in the district.
  • Meeting with MP – Meeting was at Hart DC offices – Mr Jaywardena believed that representations were being made to him as an MP on the NDP.  He was supportive of neighbourhood planning in general, and has written a letter to the BDBC CEO in support of Bramley NDP.  He noted that infrastructure should be put in place ahead of any development.  He expressed surprise that brownfield sites had not been explored in the NDP – there are none in Bramley.  He then enquired why BDBC are not looking at brownfield sites in the wider area, and suggested that BPC should speak to BDBC about this.  This does not come under the NDP remit.  The letter will be made available on the BPC website.

Cllr Durrant noted that he has written to the MP asking him if he is in support of Bramley PCs objections to the Strawberry Fields and The Street developments – he has not responded directly to date.

Volunteer Event – Cllr Durrant proposed holding a Christmas social event for all PC volunteers and partners, and particularly those on the NDP, to say thank you for their hard work over the past year.  It was agreed that this should wait until the NDP is ready for submission.





Clerk/Cllr Bell




Village Hall Trust – see appendix B.  Cllr Lane noted that Trustees have asked if the PC could look at the possibility of having a noticeboard near station for displaying Village Hall events.  It was noted that this could possibly be shared with Clift Meadow.  Clerk to send details of suppliers.





Clift Meadow Trust – see appendix B.

Cllr Capel noted that there is nearly £20,000 s.106 funding still available from the German Road development.  It has been suggested that this be used to tarmac part of the Clift Meadow car park.  However, Cllr Durrant noted that part of the s.106 agreement entered into for Minchens Lane includes tarmacking and expanding the car park.  It may be used for improving the car park, but not tarmacking.

It was agreed that Cllr Tomblin would contact both Clift Meadow and the Village Hall for ideas to use the remaining funding, and that he would liaise with BDBC officers.  This is urgent, as the money reverts to the developer at the end of November.








Cllr Tomblin


Education & Schools – see appendix B.



Policing and Neighbourhood Watch – see appendix B.



Highways & Road Closures

  • Minchens Lane flooding
  • Olivers Lane fallen branch  – possibly done
  • Pothole at the Bramley Lane/Olivers Lane junction – possibly done
  • Collapsed culvert at Folly Lane
  • Cufaude Lane flooding

The above issues have all been reported.  The Clerk is awaiting an update from HCC Highways.

  • Campbell Road bus stops – the Clerk is seeking a quote for the work.  This is expected in the next few days.
  • Pigeon Close – Cllr Ansell absent, so no update.
  • Bullsdown Farm field path repair – Cllr Ansell absent, so no update.
  • Cinder Track lights – ongoing.  Clerk is chasing.

Road Closures/Works – the following were noted:

  • Cufaude Lane – a large section of Cufaude Lane will be closed for the next six months.  The Clerk noted that she had not received official notification of this closure.  Some concern was expressed about signage for the closure.  Croudace to be written to enquire about the lack of communication.  Clerk to find out about communication, diversions, etc.
  • Ash Lane – this is due to be closed from 2nd – 9th November.
  • The Street – drainage works are being carried out near Lantern Courtyard and Cufaude Lane.  It is anticipated that these will be complete by 29th October.  Cllr Capel has been in touch with HCC, who have said that work has not started yet.  Clerk to investigate.

























Road Safety proposals – see appendix B.    Cllr Ansell and Cllr Durrant have met with HCC and Lesley Murphy from BDBC.  They are now aware of the seriousness of Bramley PCs proposals.  Highways to write an initial report to be given to Bramley PC and BDBC outlining work to be done, which is due in mid-November.  Next stage will be a feasibility study, which will initially need to be funded by PC, but will be refunded by LIF.   If a decision on expenditure is required prior to the November PC meeting then it can be added to the agenda for the Extraordinary meeting to discuss the amended NDP.









Borough Councillor Report – Cllr Tomblin and Cllr Robinson gave a verbal update.

  • Governance review for Taylors Farm is now done, and it will become the new PC of Sherfield Park from May 2016.
  • Electoral review of BDBC due in 2017/18.  It will not cover parish boundaries.
  • Critical Care Unit has received planning permission, although funding could be a problem.
  • Dixon Road traveller site – issues are ongoing, and owners have put in an appeal on application for three caravan sites.
  • Motion for supporting refugees in the BDBC area to be debated at the next full council meeting.
  • Stephen Ball has been appointed as the Priest in Charge for the benefice of Bramley, Stratfield Turgis, & Hartley Wespall.
  • The Borough is looking at brownfield sites for development – however, these can be more expensive to develop than greenfield sites, which is why developers are less interested in them.  There has been a move in recent years to convert office blocks into residential units.
  • Highways objections to The Street development were noted.
  • All half hour free parking at top of town will be converted to 1 hour free parking.
  • Proposed ban on smoking within 50 yards of all children’s play areas.
  • Meeting re public transport strategy – PC representatives invited.
  • Cllr Robinson finally noted that he has not met with Cratus Communications re the Strawberry Fields development, and has no plans to do so.



County Councillor Report – no report.


Chairmans Report – Cllr Durrant proposed placing a diary of what PC and Borough Council councillors are doing on behalf of the community.  This was unanimously agreed.  Clerk to investigate with Chris Wright.

Cllr Durrant proposed commissioning an independent study of Bramley Parishes past, present and options for the future.  This should include its evolution in terms of land usage, occupations, expansion, as well as an assessment of the structural infrastructure; roads, utilities, flood zones, healthcare and education.  It should show cause and effect of many changes in Bramley Parish.  The proposal was met with unanimous support.  Cllr Clarke to take further.

Newsletter – it was suggested that a PC newsletter could be released once a year.  IN the meantime, articles should be published in the parish magazine, especially NDP updates.








Cllr Clarke

8 Parish Environment


Longbridge Road Green – no further progress.  Further information has been obtained about the owners, and Cllr Durrant has written to them, but no response at yet.  Will continue to chase.


Cllr Durrant


Adoption of roads at Bramley Green/German Road – Craig Henderson-Bowman gave a synopsis of the current situation re roads in the area, and noted with concern the speed of traffic in Kirby Drive and around Beckett Gardens.   Several pets have been hit by speeding vehicles, and it may only be a matter of time until a child is hit.  The road has not been adopted by BDBC, and the matter was raised some 18 months ago.

Cllr Durrant noted that the PC does not have authority to take it further, although it can add weight to any applications/submissions.  Adoption may happen, but may not necessarily solve problems.  However, it will mean that proper signage and speed limits can be put into place.  The developers are Taylor Wimpey.  Roads should be adopted by HCC when developers have complied with building conditions.  Cllr Tomblin suggested raising issue with Keith Chapman at HCC.  Cllr Robinson to take forward.










Cllr Robinson

9 Consultation Documents requiring consideration



10 Grant Applications

2016 Poppy Appeal – a Poppy Wreath has been organised on behalf of the PC.  Cllr Durrant proposed a donation of £100, Cllr Lane seconded.  Unanimously agreed.


11 Finance


Payments and Reconciliation Approval – see appendix C.

The clerk outlined the payments and reconciliation for September.  She noted the following:

  • All outstanding payments from last month have now gone through.
  • The external audit fees are now due.  These are high this year due to an intermediate audit being required.  Next year should be back to normal.
  • Payment is now due for the in house training sessions given by HALC.

All other payments are as expected.

It was unanimously agreed to approve the payments for October – Clerk to process.











Acknowledgement of Receipts – see Appendix C

Payments were received in October for:

  • Burial Ground fees – £210
  • Second half of the Precept
  • BDBC grant of £4000 for NDP work.
  • Quarter 1 VAT – £1595
  • An interest payment from Unity of £98


Payroll/Pension Outsourcing – The Clerk noted that the PC has received its staging date of 1st October 2016for pension auto-enrolment.   She proposed that the Finance Committee should look at pension options, and also outsourcing of the payroll at the same time.  This was unanimously agreed.


Council printing options – The Clerk noted that she was researching options for printer replacement, and has concluded that a laser printer may well be the best option.  However, whilst the ongoing costs will be less than at present, the initial budget will be between £200-£400.  Cllr Clarke proposed that the Clerk obtain a laser printer within this suggested budget, Cllr Capel seconded, and the motion was unanimously agreed.  Clerk to take forward.






12 Date of Next Meeting

The next meeting will be held on Wednesday 18th November at 7.30pm, in the Bramley Room at the Village Hall.  Cllr Clarke gave his apologies ahead of the meeting .


13 Resolution – To exclude press and public from items that may require discussion of possible legal and financial proceedings i.a.w Public Meetings – Admission to Public Meetings Act 1960

No confidential business to discuss.


The meeting closed at 9.55pm






Signed:                 ………………………………………………………………….   Date:………………………………………             


Appendix A – Planning Summary


Planning Applications for Consideration


1. T/00319/15/TPO – The Royal British Legion The Street Bramley

T1) Goat Willow: fell at 1m height. T2) Hawthorn: crown reduce to no smaller than 2m in height with a canopy spread of no less than 1.5m. T3 Ash: fell.

2. 15/03423/FUL – Land Adjacent The Street Bramley

Erection of two no. 4 bedroom dwellings with detached garages and associated landscaping and access works

3. T/00400/15/TCA – 4 Churchlands, Bramley



4. T/00397/15/TPO – 6 North Row Bramley

T4 Oak – rear of 6/7 North Row. reduce leader with stem damage/decay by 2m and reduce lateral branches above damage by 1m and remove deadwood. T5 Oak – rear of 5/6 North Row reduce two main scaffold limb strructures on south side to reduce loading by 5m T7 Oak – reduce to 5m monouth due to major decay in stem at 2m




1. 15/03041/HSE – 26 Moat Close Bramley

Erection of front and side extension to create front porch and annex

2. 15/03030/HSE – 21 Longbridge Road Bramley

Erection of single storey rear extension



Pending Applications


1. 15/01327/LBC & 15/01326/FUL – Bullsdown Farm German Road Bramley

Conversion of farm buildings to 2 no. four bedroom live-work dwellings, reconstruction of 1 farm building to form part of 1 no. four bedroom live-work dwelling and erection of 2 no. two bedroom live-work dwellings following demolition of existing outbuildings, conversion of 1 no farm building to car ports and work unit with associated parking and alterations to existing access road

No objections
2. 15/02304/RES – Land Minchens Lane Bramley

Reserved matters application for Phase 1 for the layout, scale, appearance and landscaping of 57 dwellings, (pursuant to Outline planning permission 14/01075/OUT for 200 dwellings)

Comments submitted
3. 15/02708/OUT – Land To The North Of Sherfield Road Bramley

Outline application for residential development of up to 50 dwellings, including affordable housing with associated access, highway works, drainage works (SUDS), public open space, landscaping and any other associated infrastructure with all matters reserved except for means of access

4. 15/02682/OUT – Land Adjacent The Street Bramley

Outline planning permission for up to 49 market dwellings and 33 affordable dwellings, together with associated open space, landscaping and new site access at land to the south of The Street, Bramley

5. 15/02513/RES – Razors Farm Cufaude Lane Chineham

Reserved matters application for the appearance, landscaping, layout and scale of 143 no. dwellings with associated infrastructure, landscaping forming phase 1 of outline planning permission BDB/77341

Comments submitted
6. 15/02321/ROC – Bow Brook Farm Vyne Road Bramley

Variation of conditions 1, 3, 4 and 13 of planning permission BDB/76293 to allow alterations to fenestrations, internal layout and installation of rooflights to barn and stables. Erection of new horse walker, amendments to landscaping, fencing, hedgerow and extended earth bund (part retrospective)

No objections
7. 15/02697/LBC – Beaurepaire House Beaurepaire Park Bramley

Erection of new three storey plus basement extension to side (south) elevation, to form new principal wing, following demolition of existing single-storey rear extensions. Erection of twin bridges and lightwell to new basement to south flank of moat, and replacement of existing north bridge. External and internal alterations to existing house, including those associated with above extension and demolition proposals. Structural repairs to and partial reconstruction of existing west bridge and moat walls

No objections
8. 15/03077/HSE – Ringshall The Street Bramley

Erection of two storey side and front extensions, with single storey front extension to form entrance porch. Erection of new boundary fence and entrance gates




Appendix B – Briefing Notes



Lot use will need to be checked soon, and also a H&S visit is needed with the Clerk. The annual fee does need to be addressed this evening, my recommendation is no change



No written report



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No written report



We await the feasibility study proposal from HCC due towards the end of October.  This will be chased next week.


  • Bulpitts do not want to do the hedge cutting anymore, although they will be carrying out grass cutting.   Quotes are being obtained.
  • Bullsdown s.106 grant obtained up to £4000 to resurface entrance to car park and buy storage and new cricket shed.
  • Bramley Parish grant for £5000 to be used for spending wisely on anything.
  • £20,000 s.106 money left for recreational use. This may possibly be used to resurface the rest of the car park. Also signage and a big CMT notice board.
  • Funday will be 23rd April 2016.
  • Halloween party 31st October for children any age.
  • Ladies Evening £10 lots of stalls and treatments. Lots of other events in pipeline.
  • Wi-fi to be installed asap.
  • Website cliffmeadowpark.org.UK up and running.
  • ·         BYC has sufficient funds to run until the end of  December as present. BVA staff funded until March 2016. 20-30 active members at present. More volunteers needed to help run it.




Appendix C – Finance